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Larry's Internal Audit Checkup
Why not do something better than a quality assessment review? Bring Larry on-site to improve your audit
process by sharing ideas, experiencing survey- and workshop-based self assesssments,
discussing state-of-the-art audit techniques,
getting CPE and satisfying Standard 1312 all at the same time.
Even if you've had a QAR in the past year or so you might consider this an update or just want
to get another opinion.
Includes:
Survey-based self-assessment by auditors
Review of individual audits: planning, working papers, testing approach, reporting
Review of annual audit planning (AAP) process, audit metrics, IT audit coverage
Self-assessment workshop with auditors
Training workshop to present and discuss results - 7 CPE hours
Formal report detailing results of checkup
Conforms to IIA Standard 1312 - External QAR
Why Larry's IA Checkup?
Based on my experiences in performing QAR’s and validations of self-assessment efforts, and
discussions with others, most traditional external QAR processes have many shortcomings:
Too much preparation time (the self-study)
Cost too much
Were too long - one to two weeks
Report was too controversial – suggested changes, but no real value
Didn’t report the good things – reports were findings- or exception-based
Were too much like an audit and not enough like consulting
Had too much "review", and not enough "sharing"
Reviewers were not flexible
Reviewers imposed their own procedures instead of asking "What do the Standards say?"
All these resulted in audit departments not getting full value from the QAR process. Larry's
IA Checkup is designed to change all that! I really think I can do better.
Typical Three Day Agenda (for
Medium and Large Shops):
- Preparation: Electronic survey of auditors
- Day 1: Comments on audit reports; Review of audits, annual audit planning (AAP), metrics, IT approach;
CSA workshop
- Day 2: Comments on individual audits, AAP, metrics, IT; Discuss draft report
- Day 3: Training seminar in relevant topics.
- Post: Finalize report
Typical One or Two Day Agenda (for
Small Shops):
- Preparation: Electronic survey of auditors (if needed)
- Day 1: Discuss audit reports, AAP, metrics, IT approach; Review of audits
- Day 2: One-on-one training related to audits, AAP, metrics, IT; Discuss draft report
- Post: Finalize report
Audit Department Preparation:
Preparation (before on-site work): Supply five audit reports, one report to audit committee or similar, copy of
audit manual and annual audit plan; Participate in one hour conference call at least two weeks before on-site work to begin
survey process and discuss logistics.
Simple, Fixed Fee Pricing:
Small shop (less than 5 people): On-site 1 to 2 days; cost $2,000 per person.
Medium shop (less than 10 people): On-site 2 to 3 days; cost $1,500 per person.
Large shop (less than 30 people): On-site 3 to 4 days; cost $1,000 per person.
Other Benefits:
See COSO in action. Audit departments have internal controls too
Experience a survey-based self-assessment process
Experience a workshop-based self-assessment process
Use the WebEx online meeting tool
See and discuss an automated work paper system (TeamMate), an essential audit tool
See use of TabletPC - also an essential audit tool
Use Microsoft SharePoint Server, Office 2007 Groove and other collaboration tools

QAR Beliefs
Before I come on-site, you should know some things about how I view QAR's. These are at the
core of Larry's IA Checkup. I believe:
- QAR’s should be a positive, value-adding experience for the internal audit department. A QAR should
leave the audit department with a good feeling about the process.
- The worst outcome for a QAR is a report containing an evaluation or suggestions that a good audit
department disagrees with. Because of the power that resides in an external reviewer, in an inflexible
approach, the internal audit department might be required to accept and implement suggestions with which
they absolutely disagree. This would be a mistake.
- A constant question on a QAR should be “What do the Standards say?” as that is the measure of conformity
rather than the personal opinion or experience of any one reviewer. In general the Standards allow for many
alternative methods of complying in any area. Such an approach is different than a “by the books” review
which does not entertain real-world, necessary variances in approach.
- Reviewing working papers, while an essential step of a QAR, is actually not as important as open
discussions with auditors about how they do their audits.
- While a QAR team should be flexible, the spirit of the Standards must be understood and achieved and
effective measures employed by internal auditing to provide a high level of assurance to detect fraud, waste
and abuse in the audit effort.
- An effective, internal quality control and assurance process is essential to achieving compliance with
the Standards.
- Smaller audit shops are different than larger shops, and have a different level of formality in their audit
manual and other procedures. I understand that.
- Finally, neither an audit nor a QAR should be a game of “second guessing” those actually performing the work. The passage of time makes many things clear that were not clear at the time work was performed. Auditors and reviewers must keep this in mind during their work. This means reviewers should give positive feedback and credit when an audit department finds and addresses quality problems in an ongoing manner. That is a good event, to be positively viewed, and those items in process of being corrected do not need to be criticized during the QAR.
Interested in Larry's IA Checkup? Give me a call or email.
Larry
Hubbard
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